How to depend on Mozilla to keep on doing good work on Firefox without helping pushing the world more towards Chrome is my question.

I can tell the common people to use Firefox, as it works and generally is still better than the Chrome monoculture (and from a privacy point) but any name they don't instantly recognise just gets discarded.

If Mozilla really pivots into harvesting user data to sell to AI companies for profit then it's time to switch but I'll keep using it for the time being and see how it works out.

Speaking of email clients, I've been using Evolution for what seems like forever now. Tried Thunderbird a couple of times but always keep coming back.

There two "nice" outcome of all this :
* mozilla is going back to sanity
* a fork is being create with most of the engineers currently working on Firefox move too

The current "forks" alternative is not a real one. They just apply some small patches on top of Firefox, but not the "real" work of maintaining/evolving the core of the browser

That was a useful, if depressing video. I've been using Firefox off and on for more than twenty years so I've got a lot of inertia to overcome!

Having said that, that lit a fire under me to actually try LibreWolf! First impressions after five minutes - it's actually very similar to how I have Firefox set up. It comes with uBlock Origin pre-installed which gets a big thumbs up from me.

It might seem obvious, but anyone who offers web browser software, their *browser* has access to the data fetched by requests and anything typed into a form, included files attached to POST data for upload, any bookmarks you create, and the history.

Not surprised if after all the fuss it turns out Mozilla legal decided (for some reason) they needed explicitly state this, and other browser makers merely assume you implicitly accept it when you install or update a browser.

Thank you, this is pretty much exactly how I feel too; I'm very grateful for Mozilla's historical contributions, but they keep being sus lately and this was finally the last straw. And I also settled on Floorp as a smooth short-term replacement. :)

In the long term, Servo or Ladybird or something else is likely the way to go, but those are still at least a year away...

A video on the various alt browsers would be definitely interesting!

And use what? All the hundred Chrome forks? Or several Firefox forks that cannot exist on their own without Firefox and Mozilla? Firefox and Mozilla are a lesser evil. It's not ideal, but I'd rather use tweaked Firefox than any Chrome fork or all the flawed Firefox forks. That's just the reality.

I personally can't wait for Ladybird. A clean slate with no corporate background.

I really want #Mozilla to become financially independent from Google. I want a browser manufacturer who believes in the optimistic vision of the internet, which we had before unsocial media.

But if they sacrifice this vision, there is nothing which keeps me at #Firefox.

Anyway, as Linux users, we should also not forget, that the Terms of Usage don't apply to us. We have no business with Mozilla. Our Firefox is provided by Fedora, Ubuntu etc. We never ever agreed to the TOS.

You keep saying this but what is the option if you want a browser that looks and works like (past versions of) Firefox and you don't want to have problems accessing sites, and you want to keep using all your Firefox extensions? Don't say LibreWolf because a lot of sites won't work with it (due in part to their overly aggressive privacy measures, that maybe can be disabled but only if you know how). As far as I can tell, every alternative people are suggesting has some drawback - some are major and some just really annoying.

But also, if the issue is Firefox grabbing data of some kind and selling it, isn't there some way to prevent that data from being transmitted to Mozilla, perhaps using something like PiHole or uBlock Origin? All the techie types think just switching browsers is a solution but for many users that's a whole lot easier said than done, and none of the alternatives seem really great.