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After a bunch of comments pointing out to the fact that my GNOME touch issues were linked to Ubuntu, I did another try, on Fedora, this time, and yeah, it's MUCH better.

I also gave a shot to Plasma Mobile (excellent), and Phosh (less excellent on a big screen):

youtube.com/watch?v=nCSs4CbxZH…

in reply to Nick @ The Linux Experiment

I genuinely love to see this. You're willing to actually take comments seriously and consider them, test them out, verify them yourself, and then change your conclusions on that basis without a second thought, and we all get to benefit from all of your work as you publish it.

You're a beacon of good will in a community unfairly dominated by toxic gatekeeping. 💙

in reply to Nick @ The Linux Experiment

Nice! It's a shame that Ubuntu is not a good experience for touch, because most people starting with linux are told the Ubuntu is the best option for compatibility. Thanks for the new video!
in reply to Nick @ The Linux Experiment

@Nick @ The Linux Experiment I'm not entirely surprised, I know someone I've watched on YouTube has said that Gnome is Fedora's default desktop, and Fedora is where you get the best Gnome experience. It does strike me as funny that it worked so poorly on Ubuntu though, considering that I've never like Gnome because to me it looks like a tablet/phone OS, not a desktop OS.
in reply to Nick @ The Linux Experiment

I have to say, I’ve had only negative experiences with Ubuntu, and mostly positive experiences with Fedora...I’m surprised if the community still recommends Ubuntu to beginners, because frankly it’s a mess.
in reply to Nick @ The Linux Experiment

Appreciate when a tech influencer is pointed out about an error, and instead of justifying himself or ignoring it, he questions himself and retraces his steps! Big thumbs up ​:blobcatyes:
in reply to synthBirba

@synthBirba Well, I do try to not let my ego get in the way of the facts. Like everyone, I don’t always succeed, but when you make a mistake, no use in hiding it!
in reply to Nick @ The Linux Experiment

Phosh => Phone Shell, and for me daily driving a linux phone, that is currently the best option for phone. Then yeah, it is not made for laptop. I am curious about gnome trying to make something that work on both though
in reply to Nick @ The Linux Experiment

Though stock GNOME is horendous to use because the way it uses dock makes no sense. I like Ubuntu or Manjaro "interpretation" of it. I know you can install Dash to Dock, but I prefer if OS already has that without me having to fiddle with it.
in reply to Nick @ The Linux Experiment

the turn-around on this video after you received feedback was kinda bonkers. thanks for clearing this up! for those of us with near-zero interest in tablets in our homes (regardless of hardware or d.e.), it's really helpful to have a clear summary like this.
in reply to Nick @ The Linux Experiment

To be fair, I was seeing those same issues on Fedora until I just now updated Bazzite on my Steam Deck. :meowshrug:​ It'd been a hot minute since I updated the thing, but it was still on GNOME 47 so I think the fixes came down the pipeline fairly recently.
in reply to Nick @ The Linux Experiment

Thank you for making this follow-up video and included Fedora Plasma Mobile. While not many people seem to be interested in Linux tablets at the moment, I was one of the few that watched both videos.

I do have a Lenovo 2-in1 tablet running Auora, although if they ever do provide Plasma Mobile images, I would rebase to that.

#ublueaurora

in reply to Nick @ The Linux Experiment

it's a pity you could not trace Ubuntu's flaws. Yaru looks so good on these devices
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in reply to Nick @ The Linux Experiment

Thanks for the follow up video!

I use Phosh on my StarLite V and the OSK is appropriately sized for the width of the screen in portrait mode. The scaling of OSK seems to be based on the scaling of the screen and I don't think it likes scales except 100%, 200% etc. It's a little funky but way more usable than what you experienced!

in reply to Nick @ The Linux Experiment

huge props for following up on this, and that was such a quick turnaround!

It's kind of frustrating to see how broken some things can be on Ubuntu, especially when they have such a huge user base. GNOME and everyone working on the whole stack work so hard to make everything work well, and then a ton of users get a broken experience thanks to extensions and downstream configuration changes. 🫠

in reply to Cassidy James

@cassidy yeah, I wasn’t expecting Ubuntu to break things that much, and this really thought it was on GNOME. Next time, I’ll make sure to try a vanilla implementation of GNOME first…
in reply to Nick @ The Linux Experiment

just a nitpick: phosh is not: "some kind of fork of gnome shell."
Its a wayland and gtk shell that does use gnome technologies, sure. but was built from ground up. It does not have code in common with gnome shell itself.

Also there is another keyboard that can used with phosh that is better for tablets.

phosh.mobi/posts/phosh-osk-int…

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Nick @ The Linux Experiment

@alatiera @cassidy So many people told me I shouldn’t have used Ubuntu that I really didn’t have a choice 😁

I guess FOSS’s various freedoms are both a blessing and a curse: just because you can do a lot doesn’t mean you should!

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@alatiera @cassidy I just wanted to say thanks for doing these videos! I've been playing with Linux on my tablet for a few months now and came to basically the same conclusions - even made the same assumptions about Ubuntu and was disappointed.

I'm hoping your videos shine some light on how inconsistent the entire experience of touch on linux can still be, and encourage more people to submit bug reports.

Best experience has been KDE Desktop, and it just keeps getting better!

in reply to Nick @ The Linux Experiment

Got around to watching this.

Re: Plasma mobile buttons & gestures interfering: I have them up on the right side of my tablet display where there is no issue. I've had it like that for years, so I can't say for sure, but it's fairly likely that I did move them there to avoid the interference you experienced.

What an odd default configuration.