Bluesky didn't reach a federated stage where you could choose a service provider in a free country before they started to censor people based on authoritarian demands.
do you believe that mastodon servers exist in a vacuum? if mas.to were to receive a notice from a regulator in a country they operate in, do you honestly believe they wouldn't comply?
@halva I think Osma's point is that, if they disagreed with mas.to's moderation decisions, or if mas.to bent its knee to a tyrant, then there are many other Mastodon servers based elsewhere that could potentially tell the tyrant to pound sand.
first, you can absolutely spin up your own infra, there's a blog somewhere on running your own full-network relay specifically, and ive seen people running closed small-network relays
second, relays dont do moderation, they only gather and propagate data to appviews
if the OOP were on a custom PDS, the only way bsky could actually "ban" them would be by labeling the account (which is what they did anyway, via the turkish-specific labeler) โ which you can just turn off in settings
so bluesky is now the same as twitter - a tech bro's own social media? Who would have thought that a centralized service that can be theoretically federated would turn out like this?
What's this? American Social media pretending to be all about 'Free Speech' but really only protecting the speech of the rich and powerful? HOW UNLIKE THAT CULTURE /s
Bluesky now exceeds 13 million users, the AT Protocol developer ecosystem continues to grow, and weโve shipped highly requested features like direct messages and video.
What I took away from this article is that Bluesky is looking for ways to profit. It's a sentence, glossed over in this propaganda piece. Because that is the story. They will follow the same path. Only regulation stops tech surveillance, manipulation & corruption.
Over at Bluesky, โlittle by little, they [the users] started asking Jay [Graber, the CEO] and the team for moderation tools, and to kick people off. And unfortunately they followed through with it,โ Dorsey told Pirate Wires.
The technical means Bluesky uses to implement this block is to force-subscribe users from Turkish IP addresses to the @moderation-tr.bsky.app moderation list, which hides the accounts and posts seen here: pdsls.dev/at://did:plc:cquoj7aโฆ*
I didn't review everything there, but looks like run-of-the-mill political critique.
@aral @hyde Samesies. I called it years ago! BlueSky is centrally owned and controlled, itโs a fundamental part of the architecture, and any lip service towards or appearance of federation doesnโt really mean anything.
halva ๐
in reply to Osma A ๐ซ๐ฎ๐บ๐ฆ • • •mas.to
Mastodon hosted on mas.toDave
in reply to halva ๐ • • •halva ๐
in reply to Dave • • •gulfie
in reply to halva ๐ • • •halva ๐
in reply to gulfie • • •this... isnt how it works
first, you can absolutely spin up your own infra, there's a blog somewhere on running your own full-network relay specifically, and ive seen people running closed small-network relays
second, relays dont do moderation, they only gather and propagate data to appviews
if the OOP were on a custom PDS, the only way bsky could actually "ban" them would be by labeling the account (which is what they did anyway, via the turkish-specific labeler) โ which you can just turn off in settings
gulfie
in reply to halva ๐ • • •alihan_banan
in reply to Osma A ๐ซ๐ฎ๐บ๐ฆ • • •Lazarou Monkey Terror ๐๐๐
in reply to Osma A ๐ซ๐ฎ๐บ๐ฆ • • •What's this? American Social media pretending to be all about 'Free Speech' but really only protecting the speech of the rich and powerful?
HOW UNLIKE THAT CULTURE /s
#Bluesky #TechBros #SiliconValley
Justajason, imperatively
in reply to Lazarou Monkey Terror ๐๐๐ • • •D4v
in reply to Osma A ๐ซ๐ฎ๐บ๐ฆ • • •Kudra :maybe_verified:
in reply to D4v • • •D4v
in reply to Kudra :maybe_verified: • • •Kudra :maybe_verified:
in reply to D4v • • •@d4v maybe do a little reading about how Miyazaki feels about AI.
That's not censorship, that's respect for real art and real artist's work.
ericjames* (he/they/it) :ms_demiguy_flag: :ms_asexual_flag: :ms_aromantic_flag: :ms_neurodiversity:
in reply to Osma A ๐ซ๐ฎ๐บ๐ฆ • • •Sensitive content
knew something like this was coming the moment they allowed a transphobe to fester there
advocate.com/business/bluesky-โฆ
Ben Royce ๐บ๐ฆ
in reply to Osma A ๐ซ๐ฎ๐บ๐ฆ • • •"it's a #publicBenefitCorporation"
that has no legal bite
it means a company *may* pursue ill defined "public benefit" instead of profit
it doesn't *have* to
shallow feel good marketing
"it's #decentralized"
in theory
like #cryptocurrency hype, #bluesky promises a lot and delivers little, and #FOMO dum dums buy into the promise rather than the reality
it's only a matter of when, not if, the #crypto bro owners of bluesky do to it what #musk did to #twitter
bsky.social/about/blog/10-24-2โฆ
Bluesky Announces Series A to Grow Network of 13M+ Users - Bluesky
BlueskyFranceska Mann
in reply to Ben Royce ๐บ๐ฆ • • •@benroyce
What I took away from this article is that Bluesky is looking for ways to profit. It's a sentence, glossed over in this propaganda piece. Because that is the story. They will follow the same path. Only regulation stops tech surveillance, manipulation & corruption.
Blueskyโs Quest to Build Nontoxic Social Media newyorker.com/magazine/2025/04โฆ
CyberFrog
in reply to Osma A ๐ซ๐ฎ๐บ๐ฆ • • •oh hey cool they're doing exactly what I said they'd do, which is never federate and then slowly become yet another walled garden
it's literally built by the former twitter CEO, who left over arguments about federation not happening, like.... come on here...
Abhiram
in reply to CyberFrog • • •Abhiram
in reply to Abhiram • • •I come bearing receipts: nypost.com/2024/05/10/tech/whyโฆ
Why Jack Dorsey quit Bluesky board: It was 'literally repeating all the mistakes' Twitter made
Shannon Thaler (New York Post)Luna Lactea
in reply to Osma A ๐ซ๐ฎ๐บ๐ฆ • • •Osma A ๐ซ๐ฎ๐บ๐ฆ
in reply to Osma A ๐ซ๐ฎ๐บ๐ฆ • • •The technical means Bluesky uses to implement this block is to force-subscribe users from Turkish IP addresses to the @moderation-tr.bsky.app moderation list, which hides the accounts and posts seen here:
pdsls.dev/at://did:plc:cquoj7aโฆ*
I didn't review everything there, but looks like run-of-the-mill political critique.
PDSls
pdsls.dev๐ท ๐ Hyde
in reply to Osma A ๐ซ๐ฎ๐บ๐ฆ • • •Aral Balkan
in reply to ๐ท ๐ Hyde • • •Misuse Case
in reply to Aral Balkan • • •